“Tonight’s Conversation” is a popular video podcast in which media personalities discuss topics related to dating and relationships in front of a live audience. Recently, this show has been shaken by a series of shocking incidents and serious accusations that have made headlines in the media and on social networks. Below is a detailed summary of the main events and controversies surrounding the podcast, accompanied by references from credible sources.
Public Accusations from Kita Rose: Toxic Environment and Division
In January 2025, Kita Rose – one of the main panelists of “Tonight’s Conversation” – publicly announced her departure and raised serious accusations against the podcast creator, Anthony “Ace Metaphor” Nalls, as well as other colleagues. On January 21, she posted a 59-second video on TikTok announcing that she was now unemployed and promising to explain the reasons in a series of videos titled “Who TF Did I Work For?”. These posts immediately went viral, gathering nearly 1.9 million views and sparking widespread debates on social media. In these posts, Kita Rose detailed her experience on the podcast, describing a “toxic” work environment filled with intrigue and mistreatment. She accused Ace Metaphor and the executive staff of manipulative behavior and intentional division among panelists. According to Kita, Ace created conflicts through gossip and gaslighting – even exploiting her personal insecurities (she had been open about her mental health struggles) to weaken her position within the team.
Key accusations made publicly by Kita Rose include:
- Backstage manipulation and intrigue: A culture of internal conflict (infighting) where double-talk and psychological manipulation were present, causing tension among panel members. Kita described Ace Metaphor as a “narcissist” who turned people against each other to create drama.
- (Later debunked) accusations of doxing: An incident where fellow panelist Kittie Rose told Kita that another panelist, Randi Rossario, had released Kita’s home address (doxing), which led to hostility between them. Later, it was confirmed that this accusation was false – Randi categorically denied any involvement in this act and clarified the situation with Kita, restoring their relationship. (Kittie Rose – a well-known relationship coach who joined the podcast in 2024 – has refused to publicly comment on this matter.)
- Claims of inappropriate intimate relationships at work: Kita claimed that behind the scenes there were inappropriate relationships between Ace Metaphor and some female staff/panelists, implying romantic or sexual affairs that go against professional ethics. She also hinted at infidelity, questioning whether Ace Metaphor lived by the values he preached on the show.
- Financial issues and unpaid fees: According to Kita, the podcast failed to pay what it owed her. She says there were unpaid invoices and that she was promised a contract for the next tour but was ultimately excluded. Specifically, she claims she lost a $203,000 tour contract that was promised but suddenly canceled. Kita also claims to have spent over $100,000 of her own money on podcast-related merchandise, which Ace Metaphor took possession of without reimbursing her.
- Emotional abuse and exploitation: Kita’s accusations include gaslighting and emotional abuse by Ace Metaphor – she felt targeted because of her health problems and that her openness and honesty about her struggles were “weaponized” against her. According to her, this hostile atmosphere crossed professional boundaries and forced her to leave.
These revelations by Kita Rose shocked the “Tonight’s Conversation” community. A wide audience became aware of the dramatic backstage dynamics, turning internal group drama into a public spectacle. Randi Rossario – a founding member of the podcast since its inception in 2019 – admitted that “no one’s hands are completely clean” in this situation, implying that everyone contributed to the group’s drama. She described the team environment as initially “like a family”, but like any family, it had internal drama, and she expressed disappointment that conflicts were not resolved privately within the group. Randi revealed that during 2024, she had temporarily stepped back from the tour for health reasons, and it was during that period that misunderstandings arose – including the false doxing accusation that targeted her. However, after direct communication with Kita and clarifying that she had nothing to do with the address leak, Randi emphasized that her relationship with Kita is now restored. Still, she expressed regret that the clashes became public, saying she would have preferred to resolve them privately, “as a family.”
Panelists Leaving and Public Reaction
The explosion of these controversies was accompanied by changes in the podcast panel. Besides Kita Rose’s departure, another long-term panelist, Tripp Fontane, announced that he would no longer return to the podcast – a fact made public just days before Kita’s video. Two such departures in such a short time highlighted a clear breakdown behind the scenes, raising questions among fans about what was really happening on “Tonight’s Conversation”. Ace Metaphor insisted that Tripp Fontane’s exit was unrelated to internal conflicts; he stated that Tripp was simply “graduating” in the sense that he was pursuing his own professional path, as the podcast works with rotating panelists without fixed members. Nevertheless, the damage to the public image was already done.
These behind-the-scenes developments quickly became huge news on social networks. As mentioned, Kita Rose’s exposé videos reached millions of views and sparked a massive wave of reactions on TikTok, Instagram, and discussion forums. Many viewers were shocked that a podcast focused on relationship advice, known for its friendly on-stage atmosphere, had such deep internal divisions behind the scenes. Some comments sarcastically pointed out that the “Tonight’s Conversation” scandal is yet another proof that many so-called “relationship gurus” don’t practice what they preach. There was also a division of camps among the public: some supported Kita for her bravery in speaking out, while others wanted to hear Ace Metaphor’s side before drawing conclusions.
Ace Metaphor’s Response: Denials, Defamation Lawsuit, and Online “Receipts”
Under public attack, Anthony “Ace Metaphor” Nalls released his official response several days later, categorically denying the accusations and announcing legal action. He dismissed the notion that he had stirred gossip or division among staff (“False,” he replied when asked if he had participated in this gossip). He denied any immoral behavior, stating he had never slept with or had inappropriate relations with any cast members of the podcast, calling that accusation completely false. He also rejected claims of “psychological abuse” or emotional mistreatment, suggesting that these accusations were made by some ex-collaborators who were upset about not continuing with the show, rather than having any real basis.
In an exclusive interview with Essence, Ace Metaphor revealed that he had taken the unprecedented step of filing a defamation lawsuit against Kita Rose, accusing her of deliberately damaging his reputation. He even declared that Randi Rossario is also included in the lawsuit as a “co-conspirator,” suggesting that Randi might have helped or encouraged Kita in spreading the accusations. (This, despite the fact that Randi had previously been in conflict with Kita and later reconciled with her; still, Ace sees Randi’s public support for Kita as part of the issue.) Ace also stated that Kita’s posts violate a confidentiality agreement (gag order) she had signed, hence he felt obligated to take legal action.
In addition to denials, Ace Metaphor decided to publish his “proof” to defend himself publicly. He shared an audio recording that he claims implicates Kita in an attempt to extort $500,000 from him. In that audio (published on Instagram/TikTok), a voice – which Ace claims is Kita’s – can be heard asking him for a large sum of money, which Ace interpreted as evidence of a financial blackmail attempt. Kita Rose, on the other hand, responded by releasing her own audio recordings, in which a voice – supposedly Ace’s – is heard offering her $500,000 in exchange for her silence.
